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"Jdrentarol" (jdrentarol) 10/17/2015 at 14:52 • Filed to: None

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How about a Porsche 944 in strait from the factory condition?

And this is MAXIMUM YOU WOULD PAY.

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GK27V6 > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 14:57

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Like! but more like LOVE it~!

Viggen > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 14:59

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Immensly like. Want one. On craigslist all the time looking at them and reading up on what to look for on various websites. Just very selective of what I’m looking for.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:00

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Having spent many a mile behind the wheel of a 968, I have to say that I love all water-cooled, 4-cylinder, front-engined Porsches. They just kept getting better year after year until they were no more :(

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:01

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Like, but I like the 924’s lines more. I think it looks cleaner without the box fenders.

¯\_()_/¯

traitor joe > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:02

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your poll says 944, but your picture says 951..

CaptDale - is secretly British > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:03

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May I ask why?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/17/2015 at 15:05

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^^This?

Jdrentarol > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/17/2015 at 15:06

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Because I have no idea what people think of the 944.

Jdrentarol > traitor joe 10/17/2015 at 15:07

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No it doesn’t....

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:07

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Don’t dislike, but don’t particularly like (always liked the 928 more).

Jdrentarol > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 10/17/2015 at 15:09

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So, you love the 944, including the styling?

Jdrentarol > Viggen 10/17/2015 at 15:10

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They are very cheap, you know. I have a place that is hooking me up with one for $2,100. In perfect condition, but has been sitting still for years and years. Definitely does not have ADHD.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:12

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Ah ok.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:12

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He means your picture is of a 944 Turbo(951).

Jdrentarol > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/17/2015 at 15:13

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But in reliability things, the 944 is a king. The 928... well, I didn’t know V8’s could get that unreliable. I actually know a guy with a tri-turbo 928 with 900 horsepower. Chrome engine and all that good stuff.

Jdrentarol > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2015 at 15:14

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Ah. Porsche is too confusing with all of that crap. 996 and 997, yes I know those, but the rest of the numbers are impossible to learn. Not talking about model names, like 911, 959, 928, 924, 944 all that. You get what I mean?

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:16

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Heck yeah! The 924 was a pretty clean design, but the 944, with it’s aggressive fender flares, really gave it the muscular look that the shape needed.

Someday I’d like to find another 968 as I loved the engine in that thing. It was so smooth and torquey, and a nice step up from the 944. Combined with the 6-speed manual, the first one I’d ever experienced, it was just such a great powertrain. My only complaint would be that it still sounded like a 4-cylinder even though it had the smoothness of an I6.

Jdrentarol > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 10/17/2015 at 15:19

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Ok, please stop with all the 968/951/996 crap. I can’t handle those special numbers given to cars with unforgettable names. 911, 924, 928, 944, 959, for instance.

Viggen > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:19

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Difficult to find a running a running one where I am for cheap. There’s a 924S I’m interested in. It’s an auto unfortunatly but incredibly clean!

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:20

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No. That’s my vote.

Jdrentarol > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 10/17/2015 at 15:21

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No way you are choosing dislike? Thank you!

Aaron Brown > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:22

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i own one but would sell it

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:22

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Yep!

Jdrentarol > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:23

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Oh god, the hate, the hate is too much!

Jdrentarol > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 10/17/2015 at 15:24

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Ahhh, 944 always wins!

Steve in Manhattan > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:24

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I can actully say something here that adds to the conversation - I drove one of these that was nearly new in the late 80s. I liked the car, but not enough to buy one. Today, I’d spend the money on a Boxster, the best on I could find. Love its balance.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:24

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It’s not any more confusing than BMW or Ferrari.

Jdrentarol > Aaron Brown 10/17/2015 at 15:24

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Why ;*(

Jdrentarol > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2015 at 15:26

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Yes it is man, you don’t know me.

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:26

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Never!

Jdrentarol > Steve in Manhattan 10/17/2015 at 15:26

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But you can never tell if it is coming or going. Also, the 944 has a perfect 50/50 weight ratio. Balance? Hah.

PS9 > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:27

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50/50 for one of the only affordable ways to break into Porsche ownership? EXCUSE ME, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA OPPOSITELOCK!!!

Jdrentarol > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 10/17/2015 at 15:34

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Forever winning in styling, too!

That is a gorgeous photo.

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:45

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hue

Looks a bit more subtle... And I can’t find a proper photo of a stock GXL.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:48

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I want a green one.

Steve in Manhattan > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:48

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I can actually speak from experience - usually I’m just spitballing. Drove a 911 in the 90s (last year of the air-cooled, I recall), drove a 2000 or 2001ish Boxster, and drove a 944. Overall, the Boxster felt the most user-friendly and didn’t seem like it might try to kill me in a corner, like the 911.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:54

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Makes sense. I like them, that’s why I bought a 928

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 15:54

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Well, 968 was the name that was used on the badge and advertising and all - it’s not just the internal code name, but was just another standard model like 911, 924, 928 etc. It just happens to be relatively unknown. It was the final evolution of the 924/944 line - 3.0l 16V engine, 928-style headlamps, and a few other tweaks. Wonderful car, highly underrated. I miss it every day.

Jdrentarol > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 10/17/2015 at 15:56

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The 944 did not have 928 style headlamps. Not in the slightest.

Jdrentarol > Steve in Manhattan 10/17/2015 at 15:57

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And the 944?

Jdrentarol > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 10/17/2015 at 15:58

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Oh my god the top photo looks like a green gumdrop

Leadbull > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 16:04

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It's not that complicated

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 16:10

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You are correct in that statement, but there seems to be a comprehension issue here. The 968, a standard Porsche model which was the one I drove, the one that was the final evolution of the series that started with the 924, did have these lights. My earlier comments expressed a love for all of the water-cooled, 4 cylinder, front-engined Porsches, particularly the one that I had - the 968. At no point did I ever state that the 944 had 928-style headlights.

Steve in Manhattan > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 16:10

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Not a turbo, very competent, and if I’d been in the market for a Porsche I’d probably have sought out a used 928. The 944 was not bad, but of the most memorable driving experiences I’ve had, the Boxster is right up there. The 944 didn’t make we want it, for some reason. The 911 made me not want one - on a couple curves I could feel the rear end juuuust starting to step out. Never driven a 928, but I have been told they are very balanced.

Steve in Manhattan > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 16:11

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Oh - and I’ve never driven a Cayman, the looks of which have grown on me.

500dollarvan > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 16:21

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Like it, prefer the VW van where the engine came from...

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 16:57

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I do like that 944, but I’d like to know more about that 2nd generation ‘Roc in the background with the Z400 body kit:

Box flares FTW!

Dunnik > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 17:00

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Somewhat unsurprisingly, my answers - “Like it” (how could you not?) and “$2,500 or less” are the most common.

Jdrentarol > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 10/17/2015 at 17:04

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It was the final evolution of the 924/944 line - 3.0l 16V engine, 928-style headlamps

Seems like you did, or maybe I just read it wrong.

Jdrentarol > Dunnik 10/17/2015 at 17:06

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Yea, what people don’t get is that I meant the most you would pay for a out-of-factory condition 944. So according to this, people would pay $2,500 MAX for a mint condition 944. People don’t get what I say sometimes...

Jdrentarol > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 10/17/2015 at 17:07

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I was wondering what that was! But still, the guy who took the picture must have a badass garage when the two are lined up.

Jdrentarol > 500dollarvan 10/17/2015 at 17:08

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WHAT? The engine came from a Minibus!?!?

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 17:16

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It certainly looks like a good mix of vintage German machinery. He is missing one part on the Scirocco, namely the panel that attaches to the fuel filler. And the wheels - those appear to be stock 13” VW alloys, which I assume are on there for winter use. It needs 15” wheels at a minimum, something like these period-correct ATS Cups:

Kind of look like steelies, don’t they? Just like pizza, I occasionally like some deep dish...

PatBateman > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 17:21

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The 944 RARELY wins (in a race).

Dunnik > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 17:25

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People don’t get what I say sometimes...

Because you’re not making yourself clear. Edit the poll question to read “What’s the most you’d spend for a factory fresh 944?”.

You say this in between polls but the eye is drawn to the polls themselves. The reader considers the text between polls to be surplus to the point of voting.

Leaving aside the fact that you will likely never find a factory fresh 944 outside of the Porsche museum in Germany, a very low mile and mint 944 would certainly command more than $2500. Would easily fetch close to $30,000 or a bit more if there’s a bidding war.

Most people say $2500 because most 944s you find are tired, old and will require lots of repair and maintenance. So the lower the price the better.

Jdrentarol > Dunnik 10/17/2015 at 18:03

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You, sir, are smart.

Jdrentarol > PatBateman 10/17/2015 at 18:04

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Unless it is a rally.

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 18:12

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I voted for the $2,500 either way. :)

Jdrentarol > Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura 10/17/2015 at 18:41

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You are a little undeveloped fetus, aren’t you?

Master Cylinder > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 19:24

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I’m assuming “factory fresh” means basically brand new? If so, y’all’s a bunch of cheapasses.

Jdrentarol > Master Cylinder 10/17/2015 at 19:32

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Yep. Did you know the Porsche 944 originally was around $30,000? That means that only 15 people had the correct answer. Not that there was a correct answer.

500dollarvan > Jdrentarol 10/17/2015 at 19:58

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Well that’s more a 924 joke but figured it would work across generations of Porsche

Kanaric > Jdrentarol 10/18/2015 at 00:39

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I like 944s but I think there are so many better cars from that period and for the money for an enthusiast. Like this is a car that will permanently be down on power unless you get a turbo or a S2. Some people like to claim “that doesn’t matter” but it does and there is no easy way to remedy it. Meanwhile I can get a car that handles just as good and can make enough horsepower to please someone long term in the 21st century. Like a FC RX7 Turbo, or a Silvia, or a Skyline, etc.

I WANTED to buy a 924S, basically the same car, but that came into my mind time and time again. Do I want to drive a car with 140hp? A S13 240SX has more and there is MUCH more support for upgrades on that car. If I want a car like it from the same period why not get an Alfa GTV 6? (i did at one point)

In the end a 944 is always a car I will respect because I like the design but never would buy unless I can get a Turbo or S2.

I would rather have a Miata than a 944 if I wanted to do anything but cruise in it. 944 is a good third car for me. But then even as a 3rd car, a cruiser or show car, i can think of better vehicles to buy that has better value there like the mentioned GTV6 to start.

Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura > PS9 10/30/2015 at 20:15

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